oh yes ! you have to love jehovah's i mean god's arangement . all brothers send in money for the relief fund. then jehovah org will give some out , and use gov't grants to pay for rebuilding. then tell the jw's to pay back the money that the brothers gave and the gov't gave . IN donations to the WATCHTOWER INC. brothers can you not see the hand of god working here ? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ please tell me were to mail the check? ....................john
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So called humanitarianism
by undercover inin another thread regarding the saturday afternoon convention program, 95stormfront wrote about the wts aid in helping victims of a storm:they again shamelessly plugged how they were oh-so- helpful to victims of allison, the rainstorm that put the city of houston underwater two years ago and how money poured in from witnesses around the world.
what they failed to mention was that all the supplies they used were either donated, or bought at very reduced rates using government grants, stored in donated space, all the labor was provided free by brothers in the building industry.
they also failed to mention that it took anywhere from 6 to 8 months for them to finish the work on individual homes and that after it was finished, you were presented with an invoice detailing all the hardware used with a total of what the retail cost of what those items would've been.
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Update on Bill Bowens meeting with WT Reps:
by Brummie inan update on bill bowen & his meeting with the wt.....this is an eyeopener and a disgrace on the watchtower:.
i am sitting here looking out the tenth floor window of my watchtower paid for room at the manchester holiday inn.
the events of the day before are difficult to comprehend as i reflect on what happened.
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brummer ; [please help me .. i seem to have missed this whole case and can't really follow it from this thread. if i could get some background info or a thread to look up . i think i will be better informed thank you .....john
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johnny!!! I told you they would be in territory today....
by sf in....and they already paid up in yahoo.
hahaaa.
i saw two spanish ladies w/ a young girl....pissed me off.
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sf; i'm sure they were listening , to mayby the first seeds of douth to come . boy you should had a camera to take pictures of the kid seeing his father , get taken to the mat on wt teachings .is it not so much fun to watch the elders melt like the wicked witch of the west , when you bust them with a little light.. my mom aqnd dad bought a new car today with a 10 year warrantee. so i called dad while he was at the dealership. and told him to tell the salesman he didn't need the 10 year warrantee. because the world can't possibally last till 2013 . with the creators promise and all aBOUT THE GENERATION OF 1914 RIGHT. I DIDN'T want to kill my mothers day she was so happy. but it just goes to show i can take any sisuation any made my dad stumble... john
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johnny!!! I told you they would be in territory today....
by sf in....and they already paid up in yahoo.
hahaaa.
i saw two spanish ladies w/ a young girl....pissed me off.
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sf ; you were right they did come today! that makesd you a better prophet than the 130 year reign of the wt . you said it this morning and it came true the same DAY.. well nothing the wt said in the name of god has ever came TRUE. i think you have the holy sprit. lol i love the spanish bros i make sure they speak english first then drop some bombs . like that the wt said that the spanish race is backwards and a bunch of headens spelling. i like the way you told them that all worldly people will die at armageddom . they will deny this , till i offer to show them some choice wt's on this. as for the kid and the sisters , i like to tell them in front of the elder or father that he is leading them into the pit of death . then tear him apart infront of the others . boy the elder falls off the pedistel fast for all to watch. you have to let them all know that their leaders have nothing. then one day they may stand up. sounds like you gave a good witness. i want to hear more .. how he crawled off the porch with his wt between his legs... be careful though if you make them too dizzy they may fall and get hurt on your property and do the christian thing and sue you for planting demons in their minds .. good work .................john
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Have you ever just called up Bethel and told them off?
by logansrun ingod, i feel like doing that.
every time i come here i read things that make me boiling mad.
i want to scream!
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yes i had fun caslling the wt in patterson. it was about aN WT ARTICLE TO DONATE all your property and money to them.. the first time i called i gave my dad's name and address a jw. they promised to send some papers for the donation. they were very hard up to know how much money and real estate i wanted to give .. they kept asking me how much $$$ . i played with them a while first i said 10000 then $50000 maybe the family house and farm... i;m sure they send paper word to dad.. the next time i called i was a bit harder and asked for a break down of how they were going to use my $ to build kingdom halls in africa and how many they could build for $100000 and would they put a plague with my name on them for ever one i payed for. i asked for plans and total costs to build halls for the poorest of jw's earthwide etc. well they didn't like my idea. in the end i told them how will i know my money is doing the work of jehovah in less you can tell me these things.... you want me to give my $ BLINDLY........JOHN
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It's so simple -- Matthew 24
by cruzanheart inso here i was this evening, reading the old familiar matthew 24 with the kids before bedtime, but i was reading out of our very nice contemporary parallel new testament, specifically the message version, and i had this sudden realization: jesus didn't give us a really complicated, mysterious prophecy that had different types and antitypes -- he was simply continuing his original message (love your neighbor, love god).
remember verse 12 about the love of the many cooling off?
the verse right after that talks about enduring to the end.
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well j canon ; just as i thought you are defending a false prophet as you called them. then tell me that god is using them . i have never heard some of the twisting of thwe bible and wt teachings like i have heard from you . they were wrong about1776 1780 1798 1799 1829 1831 1844 1874 72 73b 75 76 78 81 etc and you call it the forfullment of the ten virgins? lol this was all called bible TRUTH AND CAME FROM GOD'S FDS .WHAT HAPPENED GOD CAN NOT LIE!!! OR CAN HE ? then you say 1914 was ok. and other lie to cover up what never came true so god was lying again.. get out your pyramid aqnd telescope to see jehovah on the star alcyone and black ppl are just above the apes and as for the wheat and the weeds the wt said this was happening from 1844-1874 then from 1874-1914 then from 1878-1918 then from 1799-1925 from 1914-1951 then from 1914-1995 but they don't teach that no more .. so you really don't know what you are talking about as for jesus being the arch angel michael LOL .i've been over this 100 times you will have to do better than what is in the reasoning book. you can't even get past my first post and you want to talk about the trinity....lolso is it true that satan created all the bad insects like the wt said? did you get a pair of the radium biola corrective glasses sold at the 1922 convention or the RADIO DESEASE KILLER . that you plug in to kill cancer and shock your self into the new kingkum. lol god was using the wt in the 20's and the conventions from 1923 -28 wwere forfullment of rev. and the 7 bowls RIGHT. CAN YOU BACK ANY OF THIS UP FROM OLD WT BOOKS FROM THAT TIME .... jesus choose the wt after inspecting all religions from 1914-1918 . if true you will have no problem studing the old books because jesus must have . so they must be the best books and teaching since the bible . everone should have a copy ... the wt said so... you want to bull me some more with your crap....john
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Watching an elder sh*t in his pants... priceless.
by confuzcious incable modem and monthly service charge - $39.95.. paperback copy of ray franz "crisis of conscience" - $19.95.. watching an elder sh*t in his pants... priceless.. one thing i learned is that elder's hate to look bad in front of the c.o.. after numerous attempts to ask the c.o.
for a shepharding call to go over injustices in the congregation, i finally ran into the c.o.
while having his 11:00 coffee break with the congregation.. till then, the elders would stone wall everytime i would ask for a shepharding call from the c.o.
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yes confusious did a good job., but i would have let it all out in front of the elders to give them a jc right on the spot. i would have put their heads in a vise, just to watch the crap come out of their ears. if the c.o. didn't behave i would have shown him the finer points of how to cook donuts in hot oil. too bad no elders will come over for a study . i told them they can bring the c/o or any other wt arse licker they like. i'm still waiting.....john
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It's so simple -- Matthew 24
by cruzanheart inso here i was this evening, reading the old familiar matthew 24 with the kids before bedtime, but i was reading out of our very nice contemporary parallel new testament, specifically the message version, and i had this sudden realization: jesus didn't give us a really complicated, mysterious prophecy that had different types and antitypes -- he was simply continuing his original message (love your neighbor, love god).
remember verse 12 about the love of the many cooling off?
the verse right after that talks about enduring to the end.
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j canon; i like your stories about the virgins that when the lord was LATE THEY WERE READY, then you contridictyourself with the boat is leaving at 10 o'clock on the dot!!!! lets check the record and see when, god's mouth peice on earth, with the proper spritual food AT THE PROPER TIME .said that the boat was LEAVING. russells spritual teachers said it was 1844 then 1845 , then switched to the ten virgins on 1844 when the boat didn't even show up to load i think it sunk in a storm. but the wise virgins had enough oil to wait for 1872, 1873 1874 78 the boat was full in 1881 or was it overloaded and sunk at the pier.... imagine god was mad and left without all who did'nt follow this bible TRUTH . OH BUT THE BOAT SUNK after everone was told to get off because the water in it was tainted.. but jehovah sent other boats in fact a whole armada of slave baots for the foolish. there was the boat that loaded from 1905-07 . , when the food ran out russell let all off and told them to come back from 1910-12 to reload get on the boat but it beached in a storm. but russell had a lot of boats!!! he had the ark of jehovah in 1914. lol wonder who's instructions russell built that ark on . it was a bad design and never even floated.... but he was fast he build another ARK under angelic direction reaqdy for oct 1915. but faith had it that satan surplied the nails and it broke at the seams... but russell died in 1916 heartbroken and told rutherford from the grave or was it heaven to build more ARKS there was the on for 1918 then the ark for 1920. then the rapture of 1921. then rutherfords biggest ARK OF ALL THE MILLIONS NOW LIVING ARK OF 1925. that rutherford was more sure to sail than NOAH WAS about the first flood wt 1917 and sept 15 23 also the 1919 and 1922 conventions at cedar point ohio.. when thaqt ARK CAPTSISED IN THE BAY IN 1926 the wt collected all the wood to build a house on dry land for isaisah ,abraham, in jacob on san diego. because then wt reaqlized they weren't sailors. so jehovash's prophet the wt gave bible proof that the world was to end in 1929, 1931-32 hitler was to win the war and jehovah was to furfull the principles of the nazi gov't to the pleaqsure of all man find wt year book 1934. then the world was to end in 1941 and not to have children from 1923-1951 then we go into the generation of 1914 which was to end in 1951 -54 1975 1986 89 95 and any date inbetween... this was from the ARK THAT FRED FRANZ build that went hidither and dither with the winds of change for many years. sure glad i didn't get on that ark thaqt slowly sunk in 1995 even the GREAT JEHOVAH IN BROOKLYN COULD NOT SAVE THAT JUNK FROM SINKING.....JOHN
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It's so simple -- Matthew 24
by cruzanheart inso here i was this evening, reading the old familiar matthew 24 with the kids before bedtime, but i was reading out of our very nice contemporary parallel new testament, specifically the message version, and i had this sudden realization: jesus didn't give us a really complicated, mysterious prophecy that had different types and antitypes -- he was simply continuing his original message (love your neighbor, love god).
remember verse 12 about the love of the many cooling off?
the verse right after that talks about enduring to the end.
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j canon; you come up with a lot of hersay, you keep saying the jw's are jehovah's people sounds great, can you back up that jesus choose the wt in waas it 1872, or 74 ,78 ,or 1881 or 1979 or 1984 when the wt was incorparated, now it's 1914 or 1919 which date can you back up. or was it 1844 when again nothing happened . russell tried to twist this false prophecy into the story about the virgins with the oil and the ones without. as for the jews going back to isreal russell said it was bible truth that they were to return before 1914 etc. nothing the wt has ever said in the name of god has EVER CAME TO PASS. so again please do your homework before you say that the jw's are god's people. they may be jehovah's that false christ from brooklyn people. but the bible is quite clear that the wt is a false christ and jesus is not leading them....john
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Are You Afraid That You Will Die at Armageddon?
by minimus inthe watchtower constantly threatens us that we must be on guard or else.
are you afraid that you will die at armageddon??
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johnny cip
dan the man; that was a great quote . the best i heard and i will use it...